xXxM@DxXx ban

[xXxM@DxXx]

Ingame name: xXxM@DxXx
Time: 2 hours ago.
Reason of ban: hacking (wall hack).

http://newcommunity.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2312

ok so first of all, im pretty sure most of you guys have played with me or against me at least once in the past years.

I have played PR since the game came out, and since then I have a high K/D, just because I got the basic understanding of the game, and expiriance (including RL expiriance in the IDF, that I bring into the game).
I want to mention that I have a very big screen (37 inch), and an extremly loud sound system. this is how I see good and detailed, and hear very far away. with testing I did with my friends we found out I can hear prople running up to 100 meters. 50 meters are very clear, just like seeing the guy.

in the thread I gave above ^ he sent a video. I can show on every scene what was happening:
a note, you cannot hear mumble and TS on this video. I get many intel from squad and team mates on comms, which are not heard in here.
1st scene: I know he was there because it was an almost empty server and I got shot from that guy. that why I was behind the tank. and I got intel about him on mumble. I went and searched for him. then I saw him and shot him. the headshot was luck. we all have it from time to time.

1:00 - I could hear the guy coming to the corner, as I said I have a loud sound system. I heard him and waited for him to cross it.

1:30 - the maker of the video cut the part where the enemy was revived. I heard it and rushed to them, killing the guy on the corner. then 2 enemies came through the smoke and I could hear them. I purely spreayed at them. you can hear I was out of ammo.

entire korengal vally part - This is purely knowing the game and having expirience with it. This map happend to be my favorite, and I play on it for years. this happend on round start, where both sides rush to the compound. I know people always come to that corner, so EVERY TIME i play on korengal, I do the same: go up to the roof and throw nades there. and I saw and heard movement, so I shot to that area, and killed some guys.
For those holes: you can see the enemy through them... and I could hear them heal.
everything there is just hearing the movement of the enemy.

7:25 - got intel about that guy on mumble.

7:45 - I could hear the guy running around. he was pretty far but I could still hear him. so I waited for him to come around the corner.

8:15 - SL put a marker on that guy. and he still killed me...

9:00 - Could hear the dude running.

9:25 - in the video you can hear the hook throw (9:27). I run for him to kill him while he climb but was too late. If I used hacks, I could see the guy coming and start running for him before that, instead of waiting another second up on the roof. then on 10:00 you can see his rifle. I could hear him running on the roof. on 10:13 you can hear him throw the hook down. then if I had hacks, I could see he is not coming down. but I ran and checked, becuase I thought he might. on 10:32 I can see his gun and his head, so I shot him.

10:50 - Heard the guy jumping and running, then climbing the hook.

11:20 - Did not know the guy was there. that why I checked. if I knew he is there, I would throw a nade at him. then he popped up, so I knew he is there.

11:38 - If I had wall hack, I could have seen the guy on the balcony above me. I did not see him and got patched. then on 11:58 I could hear him moveing and throwing the grenade. where else could he be?...

13:00 - I remembered the dude from earlier, so I threw a nade. I could hear him move, so I threw the hook on the bus station, to draw him out (so I am static and he is moving). this is just one of the many tricks I learnt during my play on PR. BTW the enemy was using that same trick on 10:13.

13:50 - did not hear the guy moving, so came up the hook to check it. then he moved, so I knew he is right there. I thought he will come out the corner, so I covered it. if I had wall hack I could see the guy and I could know he is not coming.
14:29 - could hear the dude move, so I Knew exactly where he is (look at sound system above. in PR, as you all know, Sound is as important as Sight).

15:00 - Heared him running, so I knew around where he is. he dont have to many places to go to, as there are not many friendlies around. then at 15:30 I could not hear him move for some time, so I went to check...


yesterday I was playing on ramiel as INS. bobka.41 was there with another man, and they were collaboretors. they were following me and shouting "cheater, cheater". I went by one of those small houses, which had an enemy in it. They shouted that there is an enemy in there, and I said "stop bullshitting!". after 3 seconds an enemy came out of the house and tried to arrest them, and I killed him. If I had wall Hack, I Could see that guy... you can ask MadMak and bobka. ask them not to lie...

I am 33 Years old. I got a job and a life. Im not one of those kids who have nothing to do in their life, so they are hacking... Im not interested with hacking and Im just playing for fun.


Thank you,
FH@IDF xXxM@DxXx.

[K4on]

Hi M@d,

thanks for your unban request!
We gonna discuss your case in our internal forums.

You'll get informed about the outcome next week. Until then you will stay banned for now.

Cheers,
K4

[bobka.41]

"1st scene: I know he was there because it was an almost empty server and I got shot from that guy. that why I was behind the tank. and I got intel about him on mumble. I went and searched for him. then I saw him and shot him. the headshot was luck. we all have it from time to time."
every word can be verified.
I will choose the first scene.
And it will be clear that you're lying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxBTnTy ... e=youtu.be

[xXxM@DxXx]

"1st scene: I know he was there because it was an almost empty server and I got shot from that guy. that why I was behind the tank. and I got intel about him on mumble. I went and searched for him. then I saw him and shot him. the headshot was luck. we all have it from time to time."
every word can be verified.
I will choose the first scene.
And it will be clear that you're lying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxBTnTy ... e=youtu.be

Honestly, I do not remember that scene. What I wrote was an assumption of what happend from the video. I know I was getting intel about him because in the first video, Im behind the tank not moving for a few seconds. I got intel that there was an enemy in that building, in one of the top floors.

[Rage]

Hey Mad,

im honest to you your case is difficult because i know players who got a big screens and do pixel shooting that someone else would call them a cheater instantly but i know he isnt! The same goes for the soundcard and i suppose you combine both!

I tend to say you are not a cheater after watching both vids but explain me two things:

1. You shoot the guy in the window through the leaves are you really even playing on Low with all you special equipment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxBTnTy ... e=youtu.be

2. The most thing which disturbed me was 10:50 the guy on the hook doing no noise and you checked that direction and then immediately ran for him and shot him right away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hK3VhN ... age#t=644s

Explain me pls these two things.

Greetings Rage

[bobka.41]

.... Я знаю, я получаю intel о нем, потому что в первом видео Чат-за танком не двигается в течение нескольких секунд. Я получил intel, что там был враг, в этом здании, в одном из верхних этажей.

you do not know who you blame ...
I check every word you say.
before you got already had one beta tester, said that the batteries on the mouse sat down.
you old hacker.
I'm a clan leader .41

[xXxM@DxXx]

Hey Mad,

im honest to you your case is difficult because i know players who got a big screens and do pixel shooting that someone else would call them a cheater instantly but i know he isnt! The same goes for the soundcard and i suppose you combine both!

I tend to say you are not a cheater after watching both vids but explain me two things:

1. You shoot the guy in the window through the leaves are you really even playing on Low with all you special equipment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxBTnTy ... e=youtu.be

2. The most thing which disturbed me was 10:50 the guy on the hook doing no noise and you checked that direction and then immediately ran for him and shot him right away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hK3VhN ... age#t=644s

Explain me pls these two things.

Greetings Rage

1. I can see a person in that situation from very far without a scope or binoculars, because of my big screen. Also from the enemy's view (2nd video), you can see me moving through the tree, between the leaves.
Let me remind you that I had a scoped weapon, so imagine how big things can be seen.

With a big screen and a scope, you can see everything clearly, without a need to lower the graphic settings.

2. Im not even looking to the hook's direction! How can I see a guy through a wall, if im not even looking at him?!
In order to get the exact location of a noise, I sometimes need to turn toword the source of the sound, in order to hear the sound in both headphones, in order to be sure and know the exact location of the source of the noise.
Because I knew that the guy was running toword a hook that I knew that no one has taken, and since the footsteps stopped suddenly, I assumed he was clinbing it.

Keep in mind, that the guy who captured those videos, did not use the same sound hardware as I use. I can hear much farther then that guy. This is why I can hear farther then you can hear in these videos.

All in all, All the things that I said are final. I gave enought evidance and proof that Im not cheating. for example the balcony on jabal, the guy on the hook, that did not came down on it, but I still checked, and so on. I hope that you will see the real truth in what I said. I will not get that far to explain something, if im not sure that I am 1000% right, and that I am comfident in my expirience and my skills.
This is the last post Im going to make, since I gave all the answers for all the question that you have asked me without doubt and without hesitation.
Especialy if I wasnt sure that I am right, without any doubt.
If I was someone else, I would have done what everybody else are doing in this situation, which is to simply get new CD-keys, or a new keygen, and go back and play without any regret. Since there is an interest in my situation, and because I respect this community, I felt I should give those explenations.

I will appreciate if you will understand and find the real truth, and remove the ban.

[Spook]

I am "working" on your case since a couple of days.

I really was hoping for a post like this, explaining all kills and such. I am using a good audio setup aswell. Playing PR on "Very High" Audio settings with EAX 5.0 ...I hear footsteps like three times earlier than other players. So on most scenes I did not see any problems. The only thing that bothered me was the standoff with Pyro. It kind of looked like natural behaviour mixed with suspicious movements. it is really really hard to tell whether you are cheating or not. Based on that, I would not ban you anyways on our server. I only ban if I have 100% proof.

But we asked you recently on our server (1-2days ago), what soundcard you were using. You said you would be using onboard. So I guess you play on "High" audio settings.

I simulated the most suspicuous situations on an empty server. The standoff with Pyro would have been possible with my audio setup. Even though pretty hard if including random chatter and gunfire around. It just seems like you always now in what corner he is sitting. Sometimes he moves at the same time like you, making it even harder to hear the direction he is heading to. Still you know exactly where he is sitting behind as soon as you popup (e.g. ontop of bus stop). Even though you are using a worse audio setup than me. YOu would need to turn your volume up to the max to hear that good, but wouldnt gunshots kill your ears then instantly?

I do not know. Its just really hard. Sometimes you make suspicious stuff and sometimes you behave normally (e.g. bobka in the balcony)...If I would not have had a wallhacker in our clan who behaved exactly the same like you, I would have said you were not cheating right away. I would have said that you are an experienced player with good audio and some luck. But the guy in our clan was just like you. At one point he noticed enemies immediately and in some situations he ignored players that were even visible to him. The solution was him turning his hack on and off the whole time + trying to hide his hacked kills as good as possible, making it look like he did it with audio contacts. It was really hard to tell as well. And if he would have not confessed that he was cheating, I would have thought that he was playing legit. Just like in your case. Well Ill keep an eye on you, so if you were cheating you better not do it on QRF, if you did not cheat then just continue playing this good.

Srry NEW for interfering in your case. But it would not make sense to start the same discussion in our forums, so Ill just join here

[BloodyDeed]

Srry NEW for interfering in your case. But it would not make sense to start the same discussion in our forums, so Ill just join here

Thats what forums are for, no need to apologize.

[Toast]

... soundcard ... You said you would be using onboard.

wait, what?!

m@d, it is impossible to hear as good as you told us with an onboard soundcard!
whether u got the best headphones in the world or not.