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Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: Mo 1. Sep 2014, 15:56
von nAyo
Hallo,

After I talked to ElMariachi for a while yesterday, I'm coming here to post a ban appeal as he told me to. Everyone here knows me as an active PR player but I'm aware that most of you have a very bad opinion of me and I actually understand it. But just like gossips in real life, things spread out fast and I believe it is wise to listen to both sides in order to make oneself an own opinion. I would have personally talked to every single one of you if I could but I will just write it here instead so you can all read my explanations.

I have been playing PR since 2006 and it has always been my main and only game. I have always loved this game because it's got this little thing that makes it different and also unique. I have always invested myself in it, back then when I was active in the french community and lately by taking part in events and their organizations. From when I started until last year I never got in trouble, never got kicked, banned, or anything like that, but since last year it has been pretty obvious things have changed. I made mistakes and I never denied it, and to be very honest, that really fucked me up. That fucked up my whole reputation, and even if it's just a video game it was still really affecting me on the inside, because the mistakes that were made were not reflecting the person I really am.

The main thing that I had wrong was to think that people would make the difference between playing with someone and actually supporting them, as I thought it was the internet and not like real life where you actually support the people you hang out with because they're your friends. Never have I been so wrong. I played a lot with the wrong people and put myself in some deep shit with the simple "guilty by association" principle, and I feel deeply sorry for that. The people who know me enough can tell that I am far from being like viirus for example. However, in the eyes of everyone else who don't know me I may just be considered a little griefer/asshole/whatever because they judge me upon my actions and my "relations" instead of who I really am. This is a natural social behaviour, so when people call me a griefer without actually knowing me, it doesn't make me MAD, it makes me SAD. Because it really saddens me to see people with such a bad and wrong opinion of me. I have always cared a bit about what people think of me so indeed, I don't like when this happens. I know for a fact that I am the one responsible and the one who made the wrong decision to begin with but as I tried to justify above, it really wasn't intentional at all but then it all got caught in some nasty knock-on effect until everything finally exploded.

Not many people in NEW really know me, but now I really want to change your opinion and prove to you that I am clearly not the stupid kid you think I am. The ones who know me enough know that I face my mistakes. I have always kept the same CD-key since I bought the game, and never changed it to ban avoid like some people do 247. Very simply I could have bought a new key, made myself a new name, and carried on playing like that but this is not what I want because I have lots of friends on PR, lots of people I like to play with, servers I enjoy to play on, and I like the fact that the community is small enough so that everybody knows each other and knows your qualities as a player. Imagine a situation where every player in a game was anonymous, I am convinced that no one would enjoy it as much as usual.

Jesus this is becoming way too long, I don't want to reach the tl;dr point. To make it short now I want to conclude by sincerely apologizing for the drama caused. Believe it or not I am someone very open-minded and reasonable and far from being of bad faith. I honestly never thought that would turn out like that, as in ending up putting myself in such crap and being badly considered by many people. It has been over a year now since I got banned, and I would love to play on your server again and redeem myself. I am missing all the cool old school events, teamwork events, and everything that is really the PR spirit that I like! NEW is the server with the highest level of teamwork so you imagine that it pains me to play on PRTA instead when NEW is up :freu:

If this doesn't pass then I'd understand, but at least it was worth a try...

Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post!

Re: Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: Di 2. Sep 2014, 06:39
von Curry-Chicken
Hey nayow,

read it, was like not bad - he did made a good impression during the F|H tournament - then this:
nAyo hat geschrieben: Not many people in NEW really know me, but now I really want to change your opinion and prove to you that I am clearly not the stupid kid you think I am. The ones who know me enough know that I face my mistakes. I have always kept the same CD-key since I bought the game, and never changed it to ban avoid like some people do 247. Very simply I could have bought a new key, made myself a new name, and carried on playing like that but this is not what I want because I have lots of friends on PR, lots of people I like to play with, servers I enjoy to play on, and I like the fact that the community is small enough so that everybody knows each other and knows your qualities as a player. Imagine a situation where every player in a game was anonymous, I am convinced that no one would enjoy it as much as usual.
That is simply a lie nayow, you played under different nicknames on servers you were banned on. You DID played on NEW and on MERK while being banned there, you even were in my squads and often were CO back then. That whole paragraph is just bullshit, so I guess the rest of the post too? People don't change, we just hide our bad habits sometimes in order to achieve something. Your amount of bans and appeals just prove that.

Curry.

Re: Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: Di 2. Sep 2014, 11:38
von nAyo
See, that's how wrong things spread out like bush telegraph. Curry you're just making things up and I honestly expect better from you. I did play a few rounds back then on NEW when I noticed that I could join it because I wasn't banned for some reason. Why did I do that? Because I really wanted to play with all the good euro players and as curry said it was often as CO. But then I never continuously did it, as I said it was a very few times back then out of frustration and I never did it again, believe it or not, I was well aware it was bad but I really wanted to try out some teamwork event. Regarding Merk I have no idea what you are talking about, I sincerely demand you to tell Bluffer to investigate, he wouldn't find anything because I did not lie in what I posted. I have NEVER changed my cdkey and if there is a way to check it please free to do so, I have nothing to hide you can check everything.

Curry you're saying people don't change but this is nonsense to begin with. I am not a viirus-like griefer trying to redeem himself, I am a normal player guilty by association, who indeed made the mistake to hang out with the wrong people without necessarily seconding them, trying to redeem himsel. And the difference is huge. Again, it's all explained above.

Re: Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: Di 2. Sep 2014, 13:00
von Liam
Since I was an admin on MeRk for the majority of nAyow's ban, I feel somewhat qualified to say that Curry is wrong on this. nAyow was way too pissed about the incident to post a ban appeal for ages, let alone play on the server.

He did however play on NEW multiple times under different aliases(same CD-Key).

Re: Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: Di 2. Sep 2014, 14:22
von Curry-Chicken
You might be right, there will be no proof - and does not change my opinion about you. You did played under a different nickname just that is proof enough that you are trying to avoid bans. But hey I’m no member of the [NEW] community, thats all up to them to decide.
I’m gonna be completely honest with you Nayo. [NEW] is my home server, I have the best rounds there and that is a lot of work by the admins and its community also outside the game. I just don’t see you contributing to that in any way. Will you help seeding? Organize events? Lead a squad of pubbies? Are you doing that on the servers you are unbanned right now? What would the server and its community get from unbanning you? Apart from global chat spam, complains about the DEVs and borderlining gameplay? Are you contributing to this great game in any other way like coding or mapping, hosting a server, leading a community or helping new players to get the hang of PR?
I’m not gonna start a philosophical discussion if people change or not, what I wrote in my first post is my personal experience I gained IRL as well as online. You had enough chances to prove yourself in one or in another way. In any post I read from you I still meet the Nayo I know - flaming, complaining instead of stepping up. Where is the change?

Curry.
P.S.: This was my last post in this thread.

Re: Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: Di 2. Sep 2014, 15:54
von nAyo
I just don’t see you contributing to that in any way. Will you help seeding? Organize events? Lead a squad of pubbies? Are you doing that on the servers you are unbanned right now? What would the server and its community get from unbanning you? Apart from global chat spam, complains about the DEVs and borderlining gameplay? Are you contributing to this great game in any other way like coding or mapping, hosting a server, leading a community or helping new players to get the hang of PR?
I help seed servers. I help organizing events. I don't squadlead but enjoy commanding which I very often do. Yes I do that on all servers I am unbanned right now, that is to say all of them except this one. I'm sorry but you really are of bad faith if you say that it is untrue, and I can tell you that anyone that doesn't have such a biased opinion of me can attest to it. I contribute to this great game by playing it and enjoying it. I have no knowledge to map, code, or money to host a server but if I did I would. I was active in the french community back then and am still invested in the community by taking part in events etc etc. I have helped many new players to get the hang of PR, and regarding this last point I can't even understand how you can state this, this is beyond me to be honest!? Unless you're in my head, how in the heck could you knowingly affirm this?

Re: Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: Mi 3. Sep 2014, 12:34
von ELmariachi
Nayo your unban appeal has been denied

mariachi

Re: Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: Mi 3. Sep 2014, 21:46
von nAyo
Thanks for the answer, bye

Re: Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: So 7. Sep 2014, 21:34
von 3ti65
I find this not justified. I've played with nayow for years and i stand behind him... He gets very emotionally sometimes, but he was never being a griefer. He loves to have a good game of PR and often increases the teamquality by going commander.

He made this thread to reintegrate officially after along time out. Maybe you guys should start giving 2nd chances because he clearly had his punishment and in my opinion clearly seperated from other known griefers.

TL;DR PR is dying, nayow is a good player and supports teamplay now. Unban him please in the name of Utd| and WGP.

Re: Ban appeal and honest apologies

Verfasst: So 7. Sep 2014, 21:43
von i-kill-you2
It would be his 3rd chance then. He has already wasted his second one.